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Title: 1.5.9.13-1
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on September 17, 2015, 08:12:00 pm
http://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.5.9.13-1.apk

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+ Image attachment shrinking: now prompts upon your adding attachments (to disable: Settings -> Composing and sending).

<!-- strings_prefs.xml -->

<string name="prefs_compose_resize_images_prompt">Prompt when attaching</string>
<string name="prefs_compose_resize_images_prompt_summary">Prompt to shrink images when they\'re attached</string>
<string name="prefs_compose_resize_images_stop_prompting">No and don\'t prompt again</string>

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+ Уменьшение картинок: теперь предлагается сразу при добавлении вложения (выключить: Настройки - Написание и отправка).
Title: Re: 1.5.9.13-1
Post by: mikeone on September 17, 2015, 08:48:58 pm
German translations:
> http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=2214.msg20657#msg20657
Title: Re: 1.5.9.13-1
Post by: mikeone on September 17, 2015, 09:08:45 pm
Kostya,  great improvement. Thanks.

Just one additional suggestion for the prompt window:

[  ] Save selection as default

German translation:

[  ] Auswahl als Standard speichern
Title: Re: 1.5.9.13-1
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on September 17, 2015, 09:10:14 pm
App settings -> composing and sending :)

Title: Re: 1.5.9.13-1
Post by: vit5421 on September 17, 2015, 11:47:22 pm
Great enhancement but its only working if adding images from Aqua Mail and not working if sharing images straight from Galary
Title: Re: 1.5.9.13-1
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on September 17, 2015, 11:49:41 pm
@vit -- thanks, will fix.
Title: Re: 1.5.9.13-1
Post by: mikeone on September 18, 2015, 09:05:28 am
@vit -- thanks, will fix.
Kostya:
With version 1.5.9.13-2 it's working fine. Thanks for fixing.
http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=3964.msg20672#msg20672
Title: Re: 1.5.9.13-1
Post by: Johnny Costa on September 21, 2015, 02:27:31 am
Prompt to shrink is a very nice addition. Thanks a lot. 
Now I only need original size inline images to stop using samsung stock email app.
Title: Re: 1.5.9.13-1
Post by: StR on September 21, 2015, 06:02:45 am
I am confused: why would you want to have a full-size 6-8 (10, 12...) Mpixel image, if it is intended to be seen as a part of an e-mail on the screen? (That's typically the purpose of the inline images.)  ???

As far as I am aware, even for tablets, the highest resolution is only 2,560 x 1,600 pixels. Most phones do not exceed 1080p.
But even then, you don't fill that with an inline image, do you?..


Update: I stand corrected:
Just released, Xperia Z5 Premium has a 4K display. Even though the claim is that it doesn't run that way all the time:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_explains_why_the_z5_premium_only_uses_its_native_4k_resolution_when_needed-news-14078.php
Title: Re: 1.5.9.13-1
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on September 21, 2015, 02:08:30 pm
Re: I am confused: why would you want to have a full-size 6-8 (10, 12...) Mpixel image

Beats me. Comes up all the time though.

And then this causes even more pain on the receiving side -- "How do I save this image"? Or even "How do I view this in Gallery"?

With an attachment, it would just work.
Title: Re: 1.5.9.13-1
Post by: Johnny Costa on September 21, 2015, 03:09:39 pm
I am confused: why would you want to have a full-size 6-8 (10, 12...) Mpixel image, if it is intended to be seen as a part of an e-mail on the screen? (That's typically the purpose of the inline images.)  ???

As far as I am aware, even for tablets, the highest resolution is only 2,560 x 1,600 pixels. Most phones do not exceed 1080p.
But even then, you don't fill that with an inline image, do you?..


Update: I stand corrected:
Just released, Xperia Z5 Premium has a 4K display. Even though the claim is that it doesn't run that way all the time:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_explains_why_the_z5_premium_only_uses_its_native_4k_resolution_when_needed-news-14078.php
in my company people use a lot. All kind of images (small images, high quality resized images, pdf converted to images, pptx converted to images, forward emails with inline images resized, etx). Sounds weird to you but what can I do?
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Most of then just use Outlook 2010  (exchange) in a pc turned on all day and they don't care about the size of incoming emails, care about the message.

Only very few uses smartphones.

To don't fall in the 480x268 limitation when I need images I just send myself a email from my samsung stock email app (personal account) to my aquamail exchange account.

People have different needs. I know big inline images don't fit most people needs. But my jobs uses a lot. Happens.

Sorry for the bad English
Title: Re: 1.5.9.13-1
Post by: Johnny Costa on September 21, 2015, 04:20:38 pm
I receive emails like this all time
(http://s21.postimg.org/i0kklvdhz/2015_09_21_09_20_46.jpg)
Title: Re: 1.5.9.13-1
Post by: Johnny Costa on September 21, 2015, 04:22:47 pm
(http://s4.postimg.org/pc30jlr0d/2015_09_21_09_19_16.jpg)
Title: Re: 1.5.9.13-1
Post by: Johnny Costa on September 21, 2015, 04:25:51 pm
Is this so strange? O I explained myself wrong?

(http://s13.postimg.org/ivyttcgqf/2015_09_21_09_13_56.jpg)
Title: Re: 1.5.9.13-1
Post by: StR on September 21, 2015, 06:57:31 pm
I might be wrong, but my reading of why Kostya chose to have certain value to which to resize the inline images is because the usual purpose of them is to see "inline", as a part of the webpage-like formatted message.
I might agree or disagree about what that size should be, but I understand (and agree) with the rational behind it: If you are creating a "webpage-like" message, the intent for it is so it would be read on the screen. (I've never known what that size is limited to, as I very seldom use that feature, if at all. My personal choice from the user's perspective would be probably not to exceed some 500-600 pixels on each side.)

If you need to send a full-size image (e.g. for printing, looking at details, or for pixel-peeping), you'd send it as an attachment.

Playing a devil's advocate: what about when one wants to print an e-mail with the high quality inline image. For those purposes you really want to use a more robust "instrument", such as MS-Word or PDF document. Why? -- Among other reasons, the actual layout of the formatted e-mail can differ in different e-mail clients anyway.

Personally, I (and several of my colleagues) hate when one sends 6-10 Mpixel inline image. So, in a way, Kostya's app is doing a service to the society by helping to limit that thoughtless abuse and "waste of electrons"  ;D (when other forms of education don't help).
Title: Re: 1.5.9.13-1
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on September 21, 2015, 09:53:44 pm
Re: I receive emails like this all time

English isn't my native language either, but hey look, you wrote "receive".

AquaMail does not have any limitations for viewing messages with large inline images -- as large as the sender chooses to make them.

And your screenshots -- of such incoming messages -- confirm this.

So the only thing is composing / sending.

Yes, there is a resizing there in AquaMail. I'm not saying there isn't.
Title: Re: 1.5.9.13-1
Post by: Johnny Costa on September 22, 2015, 01:03:36 am
Re: I receive emails like this all time

English isn't my native language either, but hey look, you wrote "receive".

AquaMail does not have any limitations for viewing messages with large inline images -- as large as the sender chooses to make them.

And your screenshots -- of such incoming messages -- confirm this.

So the only thing is composing / sending.

Yes, there is a resizing there in AquaMail. I'm not saying there isn't.
Yes. Composing and sending. I use samsung stock email app for the inline image and send to my exchange account in aquamail.

People in my company just sit in outlook 2010, paste image put arrows and squares and, write and send. They don't know much about pc, pdf, format and stuff, they communicate like this.s some of then don't even open attachments.  What can I do? I just speak the language .
But I don't stay in one place and pc. I have to use Outlook Web app or android client.


Title: Re: 1.5.9.13-1
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on September 23, 2015, 02:33:37 pm
They don't understand attachments... Wow.
Title: Re: 1.5.9.13-1
Post by: Johnny Costa on September 23, 2015, 03:07:36 pm
They don't understand attachments... Wow.
When a butcher of 50 years old in a supermarket has to answer an email about meat prices, absenteeism of staff and supervision of the authorities on hygiene laws, expect things like: "had attached image? I did not notice."

People that sells like 1 million in meat, or fruits or cheese, etc.

Sad, I know
Title: Re: 1.5.9.13-1
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on September 23, 2015, 03:25:31 pm
"had attached image? I did not notice"

That's one way to avoid "difficult" questions! :)
Title: Re: 1.5.9.13-1
Post by: StR on September 23, 2015, 08:07:47 pm
They don't understand attachments... Wow.
When a butcher of 50 years old in a supermarket has to answer an email about meat prices, absenteeism of staff and supervision of the authorities on hygiene laws, expect things like: "had attached image? I did not notice."

People that sells like 1 million in meat, or fruits or cheese, etc.

Sad, I know

With all due respect, I don't think it always has to do with the non-technical nature of your correspondent. It takes two to tango communicate.

I consider myself a very technical and computer-savvy person. If somebody sends me a message and doesn't mention the attachment explicitly, I can overlook it.
Just recently, I had the following e-mail exchange with my niece, who asked me to buy some particular medicine:
(I) -- How many? What flavor?
(she) - Two.
(I) -- OK, What flavor?
(she) -- ??? I already answered...
Then I found that her first response contained an attached photo of the pack.

When I am sending an attachment, I always make sure that I explicitly reference what is in the attachment. More over, usually, if there are several items attached, I make sure to explicitly mention each of them or the number of them, in case they are of a similar kind (e.g. "5 photos from the party"). I've had situations when people saw the first attachment and didn't notice the rest.

That's a part of the efficient communication protocol/etiquette, if you wish.
Title: Re: 1.5.9.13-1
Post by: Johnny Costa on September 24, 2015, 01:41:59 am
They don't understand attachments... Wow.
When a butcher of 50 years old in a supermarket has to answer an email about meat prices, absenteeism of staff and supervision of the authorities on hygiene laws, expect things like: "had attached image? I did not notice."

People that sells like 1 million in meat, or fruits or cheese, etc.

Sad, I know

With all due respect, I don't think it always has to do with the non-technical nature of your correspondent. It takes two to tango communicate.

I consider myself a very technical and computer-savvy person. If somebody sends me a message and doesn't mention the attachment explicitly, I can overlook it.
Just recently, I had the following e-mail exchange with my niece, who asked me to buy some particular medicine:
(I) -- How many? What flavor?
(she) - Two.
(I) -- OK, What flavor?
(she) -- ??? I already answered...
Then I found that her first response contained an attached photo of the pack.

When I am sending an attachment, I always make sure that I explicitly reference what is in the attachment. More over, usually, if there are several items attached, I make sure to explicitly mention each of them or the number of them, in case they are of a similar kind (e.g. "5 photos from the party"). I've had situations when people saw the first attachment and didn't notice the rest.

That's a part of the efficient communication protocol/etiquette, if you wish.
and who said I did not make it clear that there is attachment in the message. These are people with knowledge of very low office suite and I NEED to communicate with them. I need them to understand.
I use inline images instead of teaching the basis of Windows and office. Me and other 160,000 employees just do this.