Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on July 23, 2014, 02:10:40 am
http://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.4.1-47-beta4.2.apk
^^^ Not published in Google Play yet
^^^ Updated translations
^^^ "Move to folder" command for message list swiping
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+ More color choices for folders (per-account "options and folders" -> folders).
+ "Suppress the LED" in night / weekend mode settings.
+ Fixed case-sensitive match for Subject in Tasker Event plugin (now case-insensitive, as intended).
Published to Google Play as a Beta.
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+ Больший выбор цветов для папок (уч. запись -> "доп. настройки и папки" -> "папки").
+ "Отключить светодиод" в настройках ночного времени / выходных.
Опубликовано в Google Play как Бета версия.
Post by: mikeone on July 23, 2014, 09:30:50 am
http://www.aqua-mail.com/download/AquaMail-market-1.4.1-47-beta4.1.apk
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+ "Suppress the LED" in night / weekend mode settings.
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Maybe I'am doing something wrong but I couldn't activate the settings "Suppress the LED" and "Skip checking Mail". Both are greyed under weekend mode.
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on July 23, 2014, 04:33:30 pm
To reiterate: weekend mode works by either 1) shifting night mode configured above to a different time on weekends or 2) having its own settings, which are then applied all day on those days of the week.
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on July 23, 2014, 04:41:54 pm
For other languages, I'd like to see a more clear communication of "adjust night mode settings above" vs "separate all day settings".
<string name="prefs_notify_weekend_move_night">Shift night mode</string>
<string name="prefs_notify_weekend_move_night_summary">Shift night mode on specified days</string>
<string name="prefs_notify_weekend_all">All day mode</string>
<string name="prefs_notify_weekend_all_summary">Disable sounds and vibration on specified days</string>
<string name="prefs_notify_weekend_all_no_sync">Skip checking mail</string>
<string name="prefs_notify_weekend_all_no_sync_summary">Do not check mail on specified days</string>
<string name="prefs_notify_weekend_move_night">Horaire spécifique du mode nocturne</string>
<string name="prefs_notify_weekend_move_night_summary">Le week-end, passer en mode nocturne à un horaire différent</string>
<string name="prefs_notify_weekend_all">Mode silencieux</string>
<string name="prefs_notify_weekend_all_summary">Désactiver tous les sons le week-end</string>
<string name="prefs_notify_weekend_all_no_sync">Pause de vérification du courrier</string>
<string name="prefs_notify_weekend_all_no_sync_summary">Ne pas vérifier automatiquement le courrier le week-end</string>
Post by: mikeone on July 23, 2014, 05:46:44 pm
<string name="prefs_notify_weekend_move_night">Nachtzeit verschieben</string>
<string name="prefs_notify_weekend_move_night_summary">Verschiebt die Nachtzeit an den festgelegten Tagen (Wochenend-Modus)</string>
<string name="prefs_notify_weekend_all">Ganztägiger Modus</string>
<string name="prefs_notify_weekend_all_summary">Deaktiviere Benachrichtigungstöne und Vibration an den festgelegten Tagen (Wochenend-Modus)</string>
<string name="prefs_notify_weekend_all_no_sync">Mailabruf aussetzen</string>
<string name="prefs_notify_weekend_all_no_sync_summary">An diesen Tagen keine Mails abrufen</string>
...and two more strings:
Suppress the LED
--> Status LED ausschalten
Do not use the LED in notifications
--> LED Benachrichtigung nicht verwenden
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on July 23, 2014, 07:51:19 pm
Post by: mikeone on July 23, 2014, 08:02:05 pm
Thank you both -- I've updated French and German
You're welcome.
Great Job, Kostya!!!
Post by: mikeone on July 24, 2014, 01:19:31 am
...in build 1.4.1-47-beta4.2
Thanks a lot.
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on July 24, 2014, 01:22:04 am
Post by: mikeone on July 24, 2014, 02:00:11 am
...should I delete it?
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on July 24, 2014, 02:11:02 am
I'm genuinely happy that you and others discovered the new build and are liking the new "move to folder".
At the same time, I think it's hysterically funny that my little app now has users discussing new builds that I haven't even posted yet.
Funny in the sense that the term "leaked" usually has to do with big corporations (a leaked Windows 9 development build, leaked photos of the new iPhone, that sort of thing)... The mismatching scale of officially sounding "leaked" vs. my little app is what I find so funny.
So, really, seriously, no problem with running the not-yet-posted version, and no problem with discussing and sharing the link.
I'm aware of Pyler's update checker and think it's great. Had to intention of hiding this version.
Post by: mikeone on July 24, 2014, 08:46:50 am
Pyler's AquaMail Updater (very nice little project) is downloaded just for 11 times. So no reason to worry about and no reason to hide this version.
Post by: paras.desai on July 24, 2014, 11:19:13 am
Post by: paras.desai on July 24, 2014, 11:52:09 am
Post by: paras.desai on July 24, 2014, 12:03:48 pm
Post by: paras.desai on July 24, 2014, 12:06:25 pm
Post by: paras.desai on July 24, 2014, 01:07:15 pm
Post by: mikeone on July 24, 2014, 09:17:20 pm
:P
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on July 24, 2014, 11:47:43 pm
A sound? You want the app to play a *sound* when to delineate swipe commands?
Post by: paras.desai on July 25, 2014, 09:53:11 am
Post by: paras.desai on July 25, 2014, 09:53:36 am
Post by: mikeone on July 25, 2014, 12:25:54 pm
http://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=2588.60[my original post at "Development builds" - "1.4.1-46-beta3" quoted here to continue discussion at one place]
@Kostja
Btw: could you please try to implement the feature "select (multiple) messages" before swiping:
...actual there is no possibility for swiping once you have selected one or multiple messages by tap on the contact image :( [unhappy face]
This has the advantage that a user can apply the execution of a command for several messages at the same time. A very powerful method in combination with successive swipe actions like:
- swipe: search by sender - select one/multiple messages (or even "all filtered" messages [another nice feature to implement 8) ] - swipe: move to folder ...or: delete ...or: mark as read ...or: ...
Post by: paras.desai on July 25, 2014, 01:29:01 pm
Post by: pyler on July 25, 2014, 01:52:36 pm
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on July 25, 2014, 02:52:24 pm
In Gmail, you can select multiple messages and do swiping -- but it's quite confusing which messages will be affected when you do that (answer: it's the one you're swiping, not the ones marked / selected).
To avoid the confusion, in Aqua, there is no swiping when there are marked / selected messages.
Post by: stevealb on July 25, 2014, 03:02:45 pm
The swiping is great and makes AquaMail that much better.
I would like to use AquaMail for EWS, but need it to push. Any chance that is close to a next addition to the program?
Many thanks for a great product!
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on July 25, 2014, 03:22:23 pm
As mentioned before, I only have one head (for thinking) and two hands (for typing).
I'll be doing more work on EWS after fully completing and releasing all swiping type features (so we're looking at 1.5 with swiping and 1.6 with more Exchange stuff).
It's very likely that I'll take a few days after 1.5 to add support for Android Wear devices.
Post by: paras.desai on July 25, 2014, 03:40:10 pm
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on July 25, 2014, 03:43:11 pm
-- are still there!!!
And if you're taking the time to tap / mark / select multiple messages then swiping vs. icon vs. menu command becomes moot.
Post by: mikeone on July 25, 2014, 04:31:25 pm
What I meant was to select few messages and apply common command trough swipe, that was I can move few selected message to say "To Do" folder. But this is only little additional comfort and not a quantum leap, so if it creates complexity and confusion in action, better kotsya focuses on other important features. This is my personal suggestions, thanks
+1
I just would like to remind everyone that "regular" icons / menu commands, which show when you select one or more messages --
-- are still there!!!
And if you're taking the time to tap / mark / select multiple messages then swiping vs. icon vs. menu command becomes moot.
@Kostya
I quite agree with you...but what I had in my mind is:
;)
>> So you do not need a swipe to command to perform something already existinghttp://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=2588.msg10846#msg10846
But swiping is all about doing same exact things, just differently.
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on July 25, 2014, 04:47:32 pm
Swiping when there is are marked / selected messages also feels awkward to me -- ambiguous.
Post by: g6agarwal on July 25, 2014, 05:37:25 pm
Post by: mikeone on July 25, 2014, 06:40:19 pm
I too agree ...can we get a colour option in swipe like when we swipe to delete il..the swipe area become red..or orange etc..☺
+1
@Kostya
This could be the better choice vs. to implement to play a *sound*.
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on July 25, 2014, 06:42:16 pm
However, I should / need / want (probably) to make destructive swipe actions undoable, creating the illusion that an action happened, showing an undo button, and delaying actual data changes (server sync).
Post by: mikeone on July 25, 2014, 07:03:05 pm
Swiping multiple messages at a time feels awkward to me -- esp. if some of those are off screen.You're right Kostya.
Swiping when there is are marked / selected messages also feels awkward to me -- ambiguous.
Swiping is really suitable for one message at a time.
@Kostya + Paris Geek
for me it shouldn't feel awkward or ambigous but MAGIC :-)
...wouldn't it be the same feeling right now using the "conventional" way:
- mark multiple messages (by tap on the contact images)
- then "move to (folder)" chosen from the action bar menu?
--> even if some of those marked messages are off screen...
just my 2 cents
and of course the decision will remain by Kostya (you are the developer - AM is your "baby" 8) )
Post by: Fcasoli on July 25, 2014, 09:59:18 pm
To have all sent (different accounts) in one...
Thanks
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on July 25, 2014, 10:03:46 pm
Post by: Fcasoli on July 25, 2014, 11:35:04 pm
We will wait patiently, and rejoice with all the other improvements that will come.
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on July 25, 2014, 11:35:58 pm
Post by: Fcasoli on July 26, 2014, 12:00:30 am
At work I use this principle.
In private I programmed in Basic, C + + and a wonderful Hewlett Packard 48SX with which I have made dozens of programs of all kinds.
With Android I'm a simple user.
So I ask humbly and simply :-[
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on July 26, 2014, 12:05:57 am
Ah, Hewlett Packard... I first started programming on an HP 85 (yes, I'm old and have lots of grey hair).
(http://oldcomputers.net/pics/hp85-2.jpg)
Post by: Fcasoli on July 26, 2014, 12:11:49 am
my first programmable calculator was this (1988).
(http://digilander.libero.it/thelistener/vintage/computing/casio-pb770/casio770_file/pb770sfondolibro.jpg)
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on July 26, 2014, 12:15:27 am
Still, my first *programmable calculator* looked like this (1988, give or take).
(http://savok.name/uploads/mk/14.jpg)
Post by: Fcasoli on July 26, 2014, 12:32:53 am
Two years ago I bought the latest HP, the 50G, an hour after using it, I've thrown away, horrible build quality, cheap plastic, buttons with a bad feedback. HP is dead.
I do all with my Galaxy Note 3, and Droid48.
(http://www.keesvandersanden.nl/calculators/images/HP48SX_3031A02827.gif)
(https://lh6.ggpht.com/iEnr9nL_mG3Ak1mvTvLRyDdQ-jyN6KkWK0zrHjpzbgQjbrOQ8yNYiD6Snk7_IvdIMUUz=h900-rw)
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on July 26, 2014, 01:18:33 am
Post by: scanno on July 26, 2014, 02:52:26 am
My second computer (first computer was a cp/m based)
Those were the days...
Post by: Scott_Miller on July 26, 2014, 04:51:21 am
Scott
Post by: Fcasoli on July 26, 2014, 09:41:55 am
Post by: scanno on July 26, 2014, 10:26:41 am
Post by: Fcasoli on July 26, 2014, 10:40:45 am
Tree steps and relative font resize...
Have a good day
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/26/e2ahyna8.jpg)
Post by: Fcasoli on July 26, 2014, 03:18:27 pm
Time passes, I grow old and Aquamail improves ...
Post by: mikeone on July 26, 2014, 04:19:59 pm
...Amstrad CPC 464, with CTM640 Colormonitor
Media:
Cassette tape, external 3 inch floppy disks
Operating system:
AMSDOS with Locomotive BASIC 1.0 or 1.1; CP/M 2.2 or 3.0
CPU:
Zilog Z80A @ 4 MHz
Memory:
64 or 128 KB, expandable to 576 KB
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amstrad_CPC_464
Post by: jimfbk on July 26, 2014, 05:16:50 pm
Ah, Hewlett Packard... I first started programming on an HP 85 (yes, I'm old and have lots of grey hair).
...
For me, Olivetti Underwood Programma 101:
(http://www.technikum29.de/shared/photos/rechnertechnik/olivetti_programma101.jpg)
Post by: g6agarwal on July 26, 2014, 05:32:41 pm
Post by: mikeone on July 26, 2014, 09:56:28 pm
Sometimes people digress from the topic and indulge in reminiscences - especially older ones...
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on July 26, 2014, 10:30:19 pm
"some different height for separator bar"
It's already shorter (smaller height) if you use "slim padding" for the message list, compared to when "slim padding" is not enabled -- and I can see that you're using slim padding.
Maybe I should make a larger adjustment, for smaller height.
PS ----
Aren't you supposed to be drinking Lambrusco and eating Prosciutto right now?
Instead of posting on some Internet forum?
Happy birthday!!!
Post by: Fcasoli on July 26, 2014, 11:23:31 pm
Maybe I used a bad definition, for me separator bar is the colored separator containing the date... To big also in compact layout.
No lambrusco today, Lemonsoda, but the temperature is low, so, "Tortellini in brodo" instead of summer food
Post by: Fcasoli on July 26, 2014, 11:28:17 pm
ib think its a aqua mail forumI'm sorry, my mistake, we could open a new Off Topic section to put in extra discussion...
Post by: g6agarwal on July 26, 2014, 11:31:52 pm
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on July 26, 2014, 11:41:18 pm
I just made a change to make a larger adjustment to the separator's bar padding when using "slim padding". In the beta version.
Post by: Fcasoli on July 27, 2014, 12:06:10 am
Post by: mikeone on July 27, 2014, 12:27:53 am
Swiping multiple messages at a time feels awkward to me -- esp. if some of those are off screen.You're right Kostya.
Swiping when there is are marked / selected messages also feels awkward to me -- ambiguous.
Swiping is really suitable for one message at a time.
@Kostya + Paris Geek
for me it shouldn't feel awkward or ambigous but MAGIC :-)
...
I just found a short video at youtube that is showing my suggestion for multichoice very well:
Swipe ListView Demo : Multichoice actions:
--> http://youtu.be/vNAGCeXV58w
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on July 27, 2014, 12:50:43 am
Watched it, and did not see swiping multiple items at a time.
There is a swipe action to toggle selection, well, that I did see.
Are we just misunderstanding each other?
You want to be able to select / unselect a message by swiping, to then apply a command from the action bar icon / menu?
Post by: g6agarwal on July 27, 2014, 11:18:06 am
Post by: mikeone on July 27, 2014, 01:42:37 pm
@Kostya
I agree with your thoughts. AquaMail's "swipe/fire" (without tapping on an icon) in combination with the Android "undo" action will be an unique advantage of AM.
...and I also prefer to select or multiselect messages by long pressing or by tap on the contact icon as it is already implemented in AM (a little more intuitive then "select by swiping").
@Kostya
How do you think about implementation of an "select all /unselect all" action bar icon? This could be useful if the user will execute the same action for multiple messages (in particular for filtered messages by "search by sender"). In this case the user can select these (filtered) messages with just one tap and execute the action, say "mark as read" or "move to folder" or "delete" for all selected items at once instead message by message.
I'm still excited about such a feature.
Post by: mikeone on July 27, 2014, 02:23:52 pm
That is great and sufficient.
...but it seems that I can select only the currently showed messages not even all filtered, lets say 20 - messages from the same sender.
Could this behaviour extended by AM's Settings anywhere? I couldn't find this ...maybe overlooked it.
>>> UPDATE:
I found the option in the Settings - Message list - Select "All" means -> choose: "Loaded messages".
For me now it works as supposesed :)
Post by: g6agarwal on July 27, 2014, 04:11:28 pm
Well I m satisfied with aqua mail ..just one request can there is a possibility to add folder within the app not by logging through web..so that I can make folder like TO DO and swipe mail in that folder.
Post by: mikeone on July 27, 2014, 05:09:51 pm
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9eJUs4_eFS0
...but they realized this "multiswipe" with iOS
Not sure if Android will support this in the (near) future.
Post by: Kostya Vasilyev on July 27, 2014, 08:22:23 pm
On swiping single vs. multiple items - there aren't any Android limitations here, all the code behind swiping (touch event handling, moving the message to follow the finger, animations, icon highlighting) is my own.
I could allow swiping of multiple messages at a time, but still think it would be confusing.
Post by: g6agarwal on July 27, 2014, 08:48:03 pm